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@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ Are forums hosted in Germany really forced to operate
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non-transparently and conceal such conflicts of interest from the
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non-transparently and conceal such conflicts of interest from the
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public? *Unlikely*.
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public? *Unlikely*.
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For Codeberg to allege CFT tracks "personal data" with social media
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For Codeberg to allege CFT tracks "`personal data`" with social media
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identities is perversely deceptive. CFT did not track personal data
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identities is perversely deceptive. CFT did not track personal data
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or dox any social media identities. The social media identities were
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or dox any social media identities. The social media identities were
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listed and only *public* data was shared -- data that is already
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listed and only *public* data was shared -- data that is already
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@ -88,22 +88,22 @@ of that tweet. If Codeberg's assertion above were true, then Twitter mirror sit
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would be banned in Germany for republishing the tweets of Germans.
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would be banned in Germany for republishing the tweets of Germans.
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We know this is not true because Germans have access to the mirror sites.
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We know this is not true because Germans have access to the mirror sites.
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Codeberg's false accusation of illegal activity came with destructive
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Codeberg's *false* accusation of *illegal* activity came with *destructive*
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removal of forked repositories
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removal of forked repositories
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[without warning, without redress, and while refusing explanation](https://codeberg.org/shadow/SpywareWatchdog/issues/77#issuecomment-188170)
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[without warning, without redress, and while refusing explanation](https://codeberg.org/shadow/SpywareWatchdog/issues/77#issuecomment-188170)
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to the users whose data they destroyed.
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to the users whose data they destroyed.
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In response, Codeberg
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In response, Codeberg
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[claims](https://codeberg.org/shadow/SpywareWatchdog/issues/77#issuecomment-188178)
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[claims](https://codeberg.org/shadow/SpywareWatchdog/issues/77#issuecomment-188178)
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they had to act immediately to what they perceived as illegal
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they had to act immediately to what they perceived as *illegal*
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activity. Even if we were to accept that the already public data
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activity. Even if we were to accept that the already public data
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somehow became sensitive merely by replication, the correct
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somehow became sensitive merely by replication, the correct
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non-reckless action is to quarantine the data in a non-public state
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non-reckless action is to quarantine the data in a non-public state
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until court proceedings or settlement could commence. For Codeberg to
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until court proceedings or settlement could commence.
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destroy people's work, and also destroy what they believed was
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For Codeberg to destroy people's work, and also destroy what they believed was
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evidence of illegal activity was nothing short of reckless.
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evidence of illegal activity was nothing short of reckless.
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Codeberg's haphazard response has actually created a legal liability
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Codeberg's haphazard response has actually created a legal liability
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for themselves, as they needlessly destroyed people's work without due
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for themselves, as they *needlessly* destroyed people's work without due
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diligence.
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diligence.
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A take-down request implemented properly and fairly to all sides is
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A take-down request implemented properly and fairly to all sides is
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that Codeberg does not accuse CFT of this, as doing so would be libel
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that Codeberg does not accuse CFT of this, as doing so would be libel
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against CFT. So it's unclear what purpose this statement serves other
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against CFT. So it's unclear what purpose this statement serves other
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than to imply an accusation without stating it. Such weasel wording
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than to imply an accusation without stating it. Such weasel wording
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is designed to deceive the public while dodging legal accountability.
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is designed to *deceive* the public while dodging legal accountability.
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> - Considering reports we received, a significant number of claims and
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> - Considering reports we received, a significant number of claims and
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> statements were factually false.
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> statements were factually false.
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CFT has received only **one** complaint. It involved one social media
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CFT has received only **one** complaint. It involved one social media
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alias that was listed and it turned out to be a misunderstanding
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alias that was listed and it turned out to be a misunderstanding
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surrounding the word "*support*". The listed party claimed to not
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surrounding the word "`support`". The listed party claimed to not
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personally condone Cloudflare and thus claimed to not be a Cloudflare
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personally condone Cloudflare and thus claimed to not be a Cloudflare
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"supporter" on that basis.
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"supporter" on that basis.
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But investigation of [public statements](https://codeberg.org/swiso/website/issues/141#issuecomment-69593)
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But investigation of [public statements](https://codeberg.org/swiso/website/issues/141#issuecomment-69593)
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by that individual revealed that the other party actually supported
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by that individual revealed that the other party *actually* supported
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Cloudflare operationally. Note that Codeberg destroyed the
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Cloudflare *operationally*. Note that Codeberg *destroyed* the
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investigation logs which led to the finding, so we can't cite them
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investigation logs which led to the finding, so we can't cite them here.
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here.
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> The pure existence of lis ts "Enemies of X" is by all rational means
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> The pure existence of lists "Enemies of X" is by all rational means
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> unlikely to have any other purpose than public shaming, defamation,
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> unlikely to have any other purpose than public shaming, defamation,
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> threatening and libel. These are generally considered illegal in
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> threatening and libel. These are generally considered illegal in
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> German law and elsewhere.
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> German law and elsewhere.
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The mere existence of a list of Cloudflare supporters certainly does
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The mere existence of a list of Cloudflare supporters certainly does
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*not* imply shaming. The list *can potentially* be used for shaming
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*not* imply shaming. The list *can potentially* be used for shaming
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or praising, as well as in countless ways orthogonal to both praise
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or praising, as well as in countless ways orthogonal to both *praise*
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and shame. Codeberg further produces no evidence that the list was
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and *shame*. Codeberg further produces *no evidence* that the list was
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used for shaming (which should be quite easy to do if they've had
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used for *shaming* (which should be quite easy to do if they've had
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complaints on the scale that they allege).
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complaints on the scale that they allege).
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It's important to establish bias so that readers can assess the
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It's important to establish *bias* so that readers can assess the
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accuracy of statements made by someone who is biased. This is why
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accuracy of statements made by someone who is biased. This is why
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aliases of those entrusted with advice on matters of privacy were
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aliases of those entrusted with advice on matters of privacy were
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collected. It's important to track the underlying bias behind privacy
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collected. It's important to track the underlying bias behind privacy
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(emphasis added)
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(emphasis added)
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Data published on Twitter and public forums is not sensitive. Anyone
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Data published on Twitter and public forums is *not* sensitive. Anyone
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who posts in a public space and later has regrets, they have only
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who posts in a *public space* and later has regrets, they have only
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themselves to blame.
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themselves to blame.
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Once you share your information publicly, you can't control them anymore.
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Once you share your information publicly, you can't control them anymore.
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> their social media accounts and allegedly blamed as Cloudflare
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> their social media accounts and allegedly blamed as Cloudflare
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> supporters without an evidence
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> supporters without an evidence
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CFT was never asked for evidence. Only one complaint was received.
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CFT was never asked for evidence. Only *one* complaint was received.
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It was investigated and evidence was provided to the subject.
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It was investigated and evidence was provided to the subject.
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> We started a discussion with the maintainers of this repository and
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> We started a discussion with the maintainers of this repository and
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> asked to remove these sensitive information, that are apparently for
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> asked to remove these sensitive information, that are apparently for
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> shaming people (defamation),
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> shaming people (defamation),
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CFT did not "shame" or "defame" anyone, and no evidence was given to
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CFT did not "*shame*" or "*defame*" anyone, and no evidence was given to
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that effect. Codeberg admitted earlier that their assumption is that
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that effect. Codeberg admitted earlier that their assumption is that
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a list of Cloudflare supporters inherently shames people. Yet the
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a list of Cloudflare supporters inherently shames people. Yet the
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list is objective. It's for the reader to decide if the list is of
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list is objective. It's for the reader to decide if the list is of
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> Cloudflare-supporters, but critical opponents of this company, and
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> Cloudflare-supporters, but critical opponents of this company, and
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> thus could not even imagine a reason for being listed there.
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> thus could not even imagine a reason for being listed there.
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CFT only received one complaint regarding one individual. CFT has
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CFT only received *one* complaint regarding *one* individual. CFT has
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continously been in GDPR compliance at all times. Codeberg destroyed
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*continously* been in GDPR compliance at *all times*. Codeberg destroyed
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the repository anyway.
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the repository anyway.
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"*Support*" comes in many forms. You can support Cloudflare by
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"`Support`" comes in many forms. You can support Cloudflare by
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praising it, or you can support Cloudflare through actions (which may
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praising it, or you can support Cloudflare through actions (which may
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even be unwitting to the supporter). In the one case that CFT
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even be unwitting to the supporter). In the one case that CFT
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investigated, the subject's understanding narrowly assumed "support"
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investigated, the subject's understanding narrowly assumed "support"
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This is weasel wording, as directly accusing CFT of attacking or
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This is weasel wording, as directly accusing CFT of attacking or
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threatening Cloudflare supporters would constitute libel on the part
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threatening Cloudflare supporters would constitute libel on the part
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of Codeberg. So they try to imply it. These claims can only be
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of Codeberg. So they try to *imply* it. These claims can only be
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ignored in the absence of evidence.
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ignored in the absence of evidence.
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