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# "Cloudflare, we have a problem"
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"_It's endangering the WWW and you're blocking readers who are protecting their privacy by using Tor._" -- [Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc](https://twitter.com/jeffcliff1/status/992571841406537728)
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(Just don't add Medium.com articles. It's Cloudflared. Whether the content is good or not doesn't matter.)
"[Can you trust CloudFlare with your personal data?](https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2019/11/can-you-trust-cloudflare-with-your-personal-data/)" by [Terence Eden](https://edent.tel/)
"[WARP is not a VPN for privacy](https://www.piavpnaymodqeuza.onion/blog/2019/09/warp-is-not-a-vpn-for-privacy/)" by [Private Internet Access](https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/)
"[Cloudflare - why the fuss?](https://decentralize.today/decentralization/cloudflare-why-the-fuss)" by [O S Layman](https://decentralize.today/cryptocurrency/blogger/big-h)
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"[why you shouldnt use Cloudflare](https://tech.tiq.cc/2016/01/why-you-shouldnt-use-cloudflare/)" by [tiq](https://tech.tiq.cc/)
"[DNSサーバー「1.1.1.1」が利用できない障害発生中2018年4月22日](https://web.archive.org/web/20190815152042/https://did2memo.net/2018/04/22/dns-1-1-1-1-failure-2018-04-22/)" by [did2](https://twitter.com/did2memo)
"[The CloudFlare MITM](https://web.archive.org/web/20160311163431/https://blog.paymium.com/2014/02/19/the-cloudflare-mitm/)" by [David FRANCOIS](https://blog.paymium.com/)
"[Allergique à Cloudflare ? Voici comment vous soigner…](https://korben.info/cloudflare-mitm.html)" by [KORBEN](https://korben.info/)
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"[Ongoing centralization of the internet through CDNs](https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comments/3gc1ne/ongoing_centralization_of_the_internet_through/)" by [quickdecision](https://www.reddit.com/user/quickdecision/)
"[Padlock icon appears on MitMd Firefox connections](https://redmine.tails.boum.org/code/issues/11629)" by [cypherpunks](https://redmine.tails.boum.org/code/users/808)
"[I'm not sure if I can ELI5 this but I'll try my best to explain.](https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/bg3lxh/was_casually_checking_my_logs_this_is_what_is/elk77k3/)" by [Waphire](https://www.reddit.com/user/Waphire)
"[Anonym im Internet - Inhaltsverzeichnis](https://wiki.kairaven.de/open/anon/netzwerk/anet)" by [Kairaven](https://hp.kairaven.de)
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> Too many to list here. It is IMPOSSIBLE to list them all! [See for yourself](https://twitter.com/search?q=Cloudflare).
"By the way Cloudflare has blocked me on Twitter for criticizing them." by @[dxgl_org](https://twitter.com/dxgl_org/status/1198461938411429888)
"You can buy few BTC and wanting to publish them for sale they blocked my account. I don't know that I was wrong. What do I have to do to recover it? Cloudflare Ray ID" by @[AgusNob74](https://twitter.com/AgusNob74/status/1198430473829199872)
"Is krakenfx under some sort of attack? " by @[EnnePoe](https://twitter.com/EnnePoe/status/1197910384973406210)
"Cloudflare is not exactly a free speech big tech company. I'm not saying this is a cloudflare issue but they proved they hated free speech when the blocked 8chan." by @[HD283271](https://twitter.com/HD283271/status/1197866246458482688)
"Cloudflare is blocking me from the sight at the moment. The documents should be available there for download." by @[davenlr](https://twitter.com/davenlr/status/1198086978715013120)
"Cloudflare is blocking access from Cuba, so we cannot update clamav, and even send virus sample to alert you" by @[ReneHernndez67](https://twitter.com/ReneHernndez67/status/1197914945637306369)
"FOr months when I try there is only a CloudFlare error. I miss my stories." by @[cogdog](https://twitter.com/cogdog/status/1198795213357010944)
"Alert Details: 530 - CloudFlare Origin DNS Error (Cloudflare cannot resolve the A or CNAME record requested.)" by @[YggdrasilStatus](https://twitter.com/YggdrasilStatus/status/1198426879071526918)
"site's offline now.... showing cloudflare errors consistently.... :(" by @[Nessy_Reads](https://twitter.com/Nessy_Reads/status/1198362194188132354)
"if you somehow make it so i don't have to click crosswalks/firehydrants/stoplights on Cloudflare for every site, then my shilling might never cease" by @[evan_van_ness](https://twitter.com/evan_van_ness/status/1198010177238261761)
"Cloudflare You have always been a #horrible corp with #broken #software Go away! Now! " by @[MeerMusik](https://twitter.com/MeerMusik/status/1197632454217076736)
"CloudFlare's website protection is blocking access to BitChute today. :/ Why not, they block other sites already!" by @[waynecolvin](https://twitter.com/waynecolvin/status/1197684878692667392)
"I've been wondering this myself. I've also considered that maybe these Cloudflare people, have taken away bitchute credentials in order to block them from public view. Maybe I should try to reach them on Tor Browser." by @[AlarikOdinsson](https://twitter.com/AlarikOdinsson/status/1197684550446415872)
"Two months ago, I cancelled my Cloudflare account and told them to delete my data. Today, they've emailed me their new privacy policy because I'm still a customer! Trying to pump their user numbers up before an IPO or just sloppy data protection? Either way, not a great look." by @[edent](https://twitter.com/edent/status/1179492594855874561)
"New blogging from me. Even after you delete your account, CloudFlare insist they have the right to email you per a non-existent section of their privacy policy." by @[edent](https://twitter.com/edent/status/1197781221180411905)
"Ive had the same experience as you with account deletions." by @[daviddlow](https://twitter.com/daviddlow/status/1197787135526555648)
"Do you know if this info is on any other sites? Sadly patreon has been taken in on the foolishness that is CloudFlare & blocks tor nodes." by @[DeborahPeasley](https://twitter.com/DeborahPeasley/status/1196465140243320832)
"Submitted a case & it was instantly marked as resolved." by @[ebenson_emily](https://twitter.com/ebenson_emily/status/1197585421028483073)
"hey, I'm using a VPN exiting in the DigitalOcean network. Cannot access this site." by @[AliveDevil95](https://twitter.com/AliveDevil95/status/1196409774323224576)
"umm this cloudflare anti DOS shit blocked me from your site. LOL i know shit all about DDOSing or anything, the closest thing to that for me is going on Tor " by @[Undyingtmlg](https://twitter.com/Undyingtmlg/status/1196811999029743621)
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> Too many to list here. It is IMPOSSIBLE to list them all! [See for yourself](https://mastodon.social/tags/cloudflare).
"Can you trust CloudFlare with your personal data?" by @[Edent](https://mastodon.social/@Edent/103175943251084170)
"wenn sich der Tagesspiegel nicht hinter #cloudflare verstecken würde, würde ich ihn wahrscheinlich auch lesen" by @[kromonos](https://metalhead.club/@kromonos/103136278965173255)
"Not that I expect Cloudflare to be doing anything malicious, I'm just a little uncomfortable where passwords or anything sensitive are involved." by @[IceWolf](https://meow.social/@IceWolf/103116651269844076)

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- [Terminating sites](README_ethics.md#terminating-sites)
- [Browser vendor discrimination](README_ethics.md#browser-vendor-discrimination)
- [Voter suppression](README_ethics.md#voter-suppression)
- [Ignoring user's preference](README_ethics.md#ignoring-user-s-preference)
- [Lying about deleting user's data](README_ethics.md#lying-about-deleting-users-data)
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### Ignoring user's preference
If you opt-out something, you expect that you receive no email about it. Cloudflare ignore user's preference and share data with third-party corporations [without customer's consent](https://twitter.com/thexpaw/status/1108424723233419264).
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### Lying about deleting user's data
According to this [ex-cloudflare customer's blog](https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2019/11/can-you-trust-cloudflare-with-your-personal-data/), Cloudflare is lying about deleting accounts. Nowadays, many [companies keep your data](https://justdeleteme.xyz/) after you've closed or removed your account. Most of good companies do mention about it in their privacy policy. Cloudflare? No.
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2019-08-05 CloudFlare sent me confirmation that they'd removed my account.
2019-10-02 I received an email from CloudFlare "because I am a customer"
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Cloudflare didn't know about the word "remove". If it is really _removed_, why this ex-customer got an email? He also mentioned that Cloudflare's privacy policy doesn't mention about it.
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Their new privacy policy doesn't make any mention of retaining data for a year.
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How can you trust Cloudflare if [their privacy policy is a LIE](https://twitter.com/daviddlow/status/1197787135526555648)?
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### Next: **[Cloudflare Voices](PEOPLE.md)**

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8ch.net https://new.blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/
linux.pizza https://social.linux.pizza/@admin/102189393483894910
privacytools.io It took 3 years to convince him to move off Cloudflare.
8ch.net https://new.blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/
shkspr.mobi https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2019/11/can-you-trust-cloudflare-with-your-personal-data/

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- "Firefox Focus"(Firefox Klar) [is a joke](https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/issues/1743).
- PaleMoon developer [loves Cloudflare](https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/issues/1743#issuecomment-345993097). Pale Moon's Archive Server [hacked and spread malware for 18 Months](https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/cc808y/pale_moons_archive_server_hacked_and_spread/)!!
- PaleMoon(Basilisk) developer [loves Cloudflare](https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/issues/1743#issuecomment-345993097). Pale Moon's Archive Server [hacked and spread malware for 18 Months](https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/cc808y/pale_moons_archive_server_hacked_and_spread/)!!
- Waterfox actively using [Cloudflare on their servers](https://www.digwebinterface.com/?hostnames=www.waterfoxproject.org&type=A&ns=resolver&useresolver=8.8.4.4&nameservers=) and their software have [severe "phones home" problem](https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/waterfox.html).